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Jul 8, 2015 6:40 PM
#241
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I still think Feldt is best girl.
Jul 8, 2015 7:06 PM
#242
SovereignSky
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I love the movie as a whole, as I wasn't confused by the genre change (space opera to hard sci-fi) as I watch pretty much every genre. Gundam 00 as a whole is my fav Gundam. The movie is a 7/10 while series is 8-9/10. I felt Feldt's romance, which I might agree was shoehorned, progressed way more than Marina x Setsuna ever did (the manga ending would downgrade the movie to 5/10 so let's not count it).
Jul 27, 2015 5:27 AM
#243
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CookingPriest said:
okay so so far the only ones saying something bad about this movie are setsuna-x-felt(ever heard of one-sided love, folks?) shippers(who, unsurprisingly also have stuff like "gundam" seed rated as 10/10).
Felt's first and true love obviously was s1-lockon. What was shown as her feelings for setsuna was clearly shown as affection and attraction. There was no "epic love", she was just attracted to the guy. Something people usually get over.
Marina and setsuna have been set up as this platonic love relationship since season1. Two people , two different people reaching for same thing in different ways.
Both Marina and Setsuna have been strong characters with their weaknesses and its nice to see them each learn something in their life.
It only makes sense that they came to an understanding in the end. Not every series needs to end with childish riding into sunset or a wedding type romance. Its nice to see relationship handled in more mature way.
CookingPriest if you haven't read it there is a manga drawn by Yun Kouga(official character designer of 00) called "The place where the sky meets the earth" which serves as the prologue to the movie and YES IT IS CANON and it depicts setsuna x marina's relation as a very intimidate and strong one but the unique thing about them is it this relationship is totally asexual but it's not platonic either as shown in the manga. They do feel for each other but they also know that it is impossible to to be with eachother.
The manga also explains as to why Setsuna went to meet Marina at the end of the movie. You should read it , it's only one chapter of 32 pages. Felt had a one-sided crush on Setsuna but she was allyzoned ;)
Jul 27, 2015 5:31 AM
#244
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Shuhan said:
Howling_Darkness said:
Its true that it makes the ending more "complete". But just de-aging Marina like that is stupid.
Yeah its kinda dumb but im pretty desperate for any closure.
Jul 27, 2015 5:37 AM
#245
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SovereignSky said:
I love the movie as a whole, as I wasn't confused by the genre change (space opera to hard sci-fi) as I watch pretty much every genre. Gundam 00 as a whole is my fav Gundam. The movie is a 7/10 while series is 8-9/10. I felt Feldt's romance, which I might agree was shoehorned, progressed way more than Marina x Setsuna ever did (the manga ending would downgrade the movie to 5/10 so let's not count it).
Oh yeah the manga also explains why Setsuna went to meet Marina and NOT Feldt. I hope one day i will get to see a 20 min OVA of that manga so that this unnecessary waifu war will end LOL
CutePriestJul 27, 2015 5:41 AM
Oct 31, 2015 12:47 AM
#246
garydai
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7/10
Dec 7, 2015 8:39 PM
#247
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This was a terribly executed movie. Within the first 15 minutes of the film there was an entity ready to go back to the old ways and start conflict because they didn't want to understand them as human beings, that they are only good for slave labor and the moral of the movie at the end is understanding, and that humans can change. THAT'S SUCH A CONTRADICTION. The Feldt and Setsuna relationship went no where at the end of season 2 and it went completely no where in this, what was the point? There were so many ships sailing in the original series, why bother continuing with a pointless one? The ELS has to be the dullest "aliens" I've seen ever in an anime, no, animated series period. Shaman got a lot of air time in the first half for someone who died quickly and served no real purpose to the plot. As far as I can tell, and how much I so badly want to state otherwise, Destiny is better than this movie. Hell, this movie took on some of the terrible bits of Seed, Lock-On pulled a Kira Yamato and went full beam spam in one part of the movie, Mehna was introduced almost as 00's version of Flay Allster, only smarter apparently.
Most of the latter quarter of this movie can be summed up as machines shooting at solid walls for apparently hours...waiting for the newly created Gary Stu (Setsuna) to come to the rescue and even then all he did was avoid fire and make it to the core, only to finally have it abruptly stop.
Like with Destiny, I want my life back. :|
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment"
Jan 19, 2016 3:02 PM
#248
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Jeez... nobody gives 00 a break on MAL, do they? A third of the comments are a bunch of criticisms without any explanation whatsoever.
Ya know, I kept hearing about how Awakening of the Trailblazer was "complete trash" and "haxhaxhaxxxxxxx with aliens", but I thought it was actually pretty good.
Some of the big points for me:
- Had a good laugh at "Celestial Being the Movie". Pretty accurate parody of the show till now, though I am a bit surprised that people forgot Celestial Being so fast. I mean, it was only four years ago!
- While I did find Marina kind of grating VA-wise, at least she was doing something productive. In fact, just about everyone was interesting this time around, and none of them felt like they were on the screen for too much or too little.
- Billy and Mina (Still not sure if that's Nena or not, and if it is- why is she still alive and not ogling Setsuna?) were informative, but also pretty funny. I laughed harder than I should when Billy said "Please be gentle."
Of course, the way that everyone just magically survived at the end (with the exception of Andrei, 1st-Innovator-san and TRANS-GrahAM - may you rest in peace) was kind of childish- but so is the wish that everyone in existence can fully understand and sympathize with each other. You're not going to be able to get around that in Fate/Stay Night or in Gundam 00. And for what it's worth, I think the rest of the movie more than made up for any points that would have taken off.
It's not a perfect movie, but all in all it was pretty amazing. Putting it as 9/10, and a favorite anime.
Feb 5, 2016 11:14 AM
#249
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Honestly the awakening of trailblazer would have been a fine 12 episodes third season.
I would love to see more of the new earth federation.
See more of what Mari and Aleluja is up to on their pilgrimage.
See how Celestial Being is still watching over the world from the shadows and helping out.
See more of Saji and Luise, in general have more time spent on viewing how people are adapting to the new world.
More than anything, we needed more time to develop Setsuna as an Inovador. See him come to terms with his new abilities and learn how to let others close to him once again.
The concept of ELS were fine, the execution really lacking. Nearly every action scene was reduced to someone running away from a bunch of missiles. Later on they began to adapt and evolve by copying human technology, very unimaginative.
They should have developed the prelude to conflict a bit more, with ELS attempting to make first contact via assimilation of quantum adept humans. But because of the nature of ELS the human either died to due overload or went on rampage due to going insane.
Thus mankind get really scared of ELS and consider them a threat, they bounce back to their old ways and try to fight ELS with force and ELS, responds with the same coin.
Where CB is actually trying to find a way to solve this without violence. In the end, Setsuna would use Quan[T] to create a huge particle field, utilizing hundreds of linked consciousness, they would be able to communicate with ELS and make truth. ELS creates a flower in space to "communicate" to the rest of the mankind that they do not wish for conflict.
Then Setsuna tells that he feels obligated to help ELS at their homeworld, says his goodbyes and leaves. Timeskip and longer prologue is also needed, as I strongly feel we did not get any conclusion to Saji's and Luise fate, not to mention Mari and Aleluja.
tl;dr
The movie was not enough to cover the amount of plot required.
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Apr 4, 2016 8:54 AM
#250
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Okay I honestly loved both seasons 1 and 2 and I think the latter ended perfectly and in a satisfying way. I really don't know why they decided to make this. It basically just ruined everything good from the series, including both characters and plot. So, to me, this movie never happened and season 2 was the true ending
Apr 23, 2016 9:13 PM
#251
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SovereignSky said:
I love the movie as a whole, as I wasn't confused by the genre change (space opera to hard sci-fi) as I watch pretty much every genre. Gundam 00 as a whole is my fav Gundam. The movie is a 7/10 while series is 8-9/10. I felt Feldt's romance, which I might agree was shoehorned, progressed way more than Marina x Setsuna ever did (the manga ending would downgrade the movie to 5/10 so let's not count it).
I agree with you and Naschyamamoto.
While parts of the movie could have been better (for example, I still don't buy Sanji, and therefore Louise, leaving the ship before the final battle) I enjoyed the movie quite a bit even if the ending could have had a bit longer of an epilogue in order to show the other members of Celestial Being one more time.
The two TV seasons made Gundam 00 my favorite Gundam show so far as well and among my favorite anime.
I also agree for a relatively late addition they did a pretty good job working in Feldt's feelings for Setsuna pretty smoothly from prior events despite it being a relatively new thing.
Apr 28, 2016 10:07 PM
#252
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"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding"
Jun 15, 2016 10:12 AM
#253
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Seriously answered nothing and just ended with no explanation except a flower bloomed in space, just WTF?! Then random WTF timeskip.
I'd also love to know just how Schenberg predicted everything 200 years prior and created all that tech too.
Sep 5, 2016 1:42 AM
#254
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6 years too late, but I gave it 7/10.
I was going to rate it 9/10 when I saw action scenes, after a bit of time, I decided on 8, but ending was so bad I gave it 7/10, space flower, really?... I was going to give 6/10 to it but I spared movie because action was very good...
Feb 24, 2017 4:51 PM
#255
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The plot just isn't engaging and the ending is bullshit. Aliens are invading and they need to stop it by understanding them through GN particle bullshit. Setsuna succeeds and goes to their home planet (I think). A flower blooms in space. Setsuna fuses with the aliens or something. There I saved you 2 hours.
Didn't enjoy the shoehorned Setsuna/Feldt since they were clearly never going to end up together. I think Marina & Setsuna have a very deep connection but are not attracted to each other. Honestly this movie made me think Setsuna is asexual lmfao.
Loved the action scenes though.
5/10
Mar 8, 2017 1:20 PM
#256
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Esper said:
I love this movie a lot. A nice message at the end of the story.
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding"
Me too. So that was plan from Aoia Schenenberg...
Just watch the movie as I really like first season and absolutely love!!! the second one but I am bit confused how I think about the movie
I am happy to see all characters again that is for sure and I also see the sense in it and development of Setsuna and him becoming a real innovater but the story around was....little disappointing
I still have so much more left questions and I wanted to see more interactions between the characters!!
So less Saji/Louise and Setsuna/Marina. I wanted to know how they moved on after 2 years and Setsuna and Marina had a strong connection and they only have the ending scene together???
I want to know what will be with the characters afterwards? Is the manga also ending after this story??
Mar 8, 2017 1:22 PM
#257
Bulma777
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As loving the anime series a lot this is so much not satisfying :P
Mar 10, 2017 4:01 AM
#258
Bulma777
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Is Graham Aker really dead? And Sergei's son?
May 15, 2017 3:30 AM
#259
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This show became Macross.
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Jul 22, 2017 2:29 PM
#260
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Enjoyment: 4/5
Score: 6./10 Still better than the second half of the show.
ezaya said:
This show became Macross.
"became"? If it's about the communication with extraterrestrial species, this was suggested as soon as the first half of the series when Schenberg's vision was exposed). This point of the movie was why the end of the second half sounded as we missed a whole part of the story (a dialogue line about potential contact wasn't enough).
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May 19, 2018 10:10 AM
#261
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i honestly don't see whats all the fuss and hate about. this movie alone was much better than the two gundam00 seasons combined. got my full enjoyments worth of fun from it. it's to my liking to see sunrise doing something "unorthodox" for once. you can go on and on about muh overused alien tropes, but if done right, great original movies such as this1 are born.
Aug 25, 2018 3:22 PM
#262
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The ending is awful - they did not explain what the fuck happened to the rest of the cast aside from setsuna and useless marina.
This movie is not as good as the previous two seasons.
Oh, and feldt falling in love with setsuna felt forced.
Jun 18, 2019 7:47 AM
#263
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This movie was a splendid finale to all the buildup we had all those seasons. It perfectly connects those plot into the true final round of the Aeolia plan. Every remaining character from the past had a part to play and they played it well. The conclusion filled the theory we all had been expecting for. Overall a good conclusion to an epic series.
Jul 13, 2020 7:53 PM
#264
Rod_Russ
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I found the flower in the space very mushy.
Aug 5, 2020 3:19 AM
#265
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I only saw itt recently. THe animation is great as always and the new gundams all look cool. The thing I didn't like it that the movie is 75% about fighting CGI space spikes and the conclusion afterwards wasn't satisfying at all for me..."it's an alien spaceship" yeah we kinda knew already...
Setsuna does nothing most of the movie and then he gets his new Gundam and ofc it's a gamechanger in this battle, but it's all very rushed and the main conclusion HAPPENS OFF SCREEN. Like WTF?
The epilogue also explains very litttle. None of tthe Gundam Meisters are shown except Setsuna...
The thing is, is that this movie is such a heavy contrast with the series that I just want to disregard it in general
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Feb 8, 2021 12:21 AM
#266
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For my tastes, this is surely be enough at 7-8/10 scores. So, by looking at the average rating, it was decent.
Guess i just stick this one at my 7/10, then. In the end, i may looking forward to see another season or movie of this....
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Feb 23, 2022 2:21 AM
#267
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I didn't really feel the need to see what happened to the rest of the cast, they will be obviously fine in the ever changing world.
Solid 7/10. I wish we saw more of the Vajra ELSes when Setsuna reache out to them instead of 15 minutes of epic lazors. Everything else was pretty good.
P.S. The girl attacked by the ELSes not only got better, but also became some kind of immortal half metal newtype wearing a Ben 10 suit. Based and best girl.
Apr 23, 2022 8:31 PM
#268
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- Descartes Shaman was a great character who ultimately amounted to nothing. I thought for sure he was going to get assimilated and return during the final battle as a pseudo-villain.
- All the hype for the new QAN[T] Gundam and it barely makes an appearance before literally blipping away
- That rushed epilogue
Here's how it should've ended:
Descartes comes back as semi-assimiliated or an ELS clone and fights Setsuna, given some of that sweet QANT Gundam action we all wanted. During the battle a desperate Setsuna unleashes a galaxy-wide particle field which links everyone on Earth with the ELS. Peace achieved, flower and all (I thought it was cool and fitting). Quantum Setsuna visits Marina and basically does the same thing as in the epilogue before warping off.
Epilogue 1: show the lives of everybody 1-2 or 5 years after
Epilogue 2: same as original
Epilogue 2.5: Metal Setsuna returns to Marina's grave with a bundle of flowers, screen pans to the flower-covered Gundam
~Fin~
As it stands, it would've been better with all the mains dying (Setsuna excluded) in the final battle so the lack of follow-up in the original epilogue wouldn't be a problem. But you can't upset the fans, right?
Anyways, like I said I did enjoy the movie. But I can't help but feel like this wasn't needed to be made since the series ended on a good enough note. Or they should've gone with another human anti-government terror group or gov't coup plotline instead. 8/10
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Oct 5, 2022 9:27 AM
#269
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Ending was disappointing but I still love the series and the characters. It would be nice if they extended the story. That was too short. (ب_ب)
I will miss Setsuna and Feldt.
CrazyButNot4UOct 5, 2022 9:31 AM
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Jul 18, 2023 8:53 AM
#270
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For 00 to conclude with an alien invasion being triumphed through understanding is pretty on-brand, though a flower in space is a little cheesy. Very solid overall tho.
Jan 15, 4:21 AM
#271
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Honestly, i'm in love with this ending, i think it fits perfectly with the themes and the forshadowings present in the show from the start, and it's also very symbolic.
The only thing i wished to be better was the epilogue, i would've loved to see the other characters after Marina and Setsuna.
Absolutely a 9/10 for me.
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